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betsey
Hi Everyone...

as you all know, i disgusted you all by buying a circle y saddle for schooling and light trail riding (light being defined as less than 2-3 hours). In NJ, I just don't work my horse the way most of you guys do...

the saddle seems comfortable to the horse-i use a wool saddle pad (diamond wool, not 5'ts...yet).

What i have noticed in recent weeks is this...the horse is still comfortable with the saddle--no tail swishing, no signs of discomfort. he works soft and round. The sweat marks are even on both sides, with this exception...over the shoulders, near the top, on either side tends to stay dry. there are NO white hairs, no swelling, no bruising, no tenderness. Nothing to make me think anything is wrong...except these two evenly matched dry spots.

the saddle pad is about 18 months old, and is kept clean. ( i vacuum is, i sweat scrape it, i power wash it!)

Given that the horse is in NO apparrent discomfort...including still tracking up correctly, etc...

what do you all think?

Betsey
Mike Franklin
If you're talking about on each side below the horn, it's a sign of a tight spot. I'd either add just a little more padding, maybe a light blanket, or at least watch for developing problems. I used to have a Bona Allen that made those same places on my QH and it never turned into a problem.
alleyrider
Try this Betsey,

The next time you saddle him, after you set the saddle on the pad, take your hand and push the pad up toward the top of the gullet of the saddle giving it lots of clearance off of the horses withers/back. After cinching up, make sure that you can still get your hand between the withers and the pad in the gullet area. This will loosen up an area that could be potentially pinching him on his withers or shoulders and may stop the dry spots. I have a mare that will buck for sure, guaranteed, if you do not do this. I am now in the habit of always doing it with all of my saddles.
gumby
Betsy if you have dryspots but the hair is still lying smooth in its natural direction with no swelling or obvious signs of pain don't worry about it, just keep an eye on it. If the hair is all ruffled and swirled around you then have a deffinent problem. Be very careful taking advice to use more pads, sometimes if the tree is a hair too wide for the horse in his currnt shape a little extra padding is the ansewer but 9 times out of 10 extra padding just compounds the fit problem. Greg
Mustang Blue
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Franklin:
If you're talking about on each side below the horn, it's a sign of a tight spot. I'd either add just a little more padding, maybe a light blanket, or at least watch for developing problems. I used to have a Bona Allen that made those same places on my QH and it never turned into a problem.

hmmm, ironic, I would've recomended just the oppisite...less padding and peaking the pad under the gullet. I have always been taught that just as when you're shoes are too tight, you don't wear thicker socks to cure the problem. Not trying to argue, just more curious now.

you can set the saddle on the horse with no pad and running one hand, palm down up under the bar, then with your other hand, push down on the saddle to create pressure....is it even pressure you feel on the back of your first hand.....or can you detect any pressure points?
Check out this excellent website on saddle fitting by Kellie Sharpe.........
http://awarenesshorsemanship.com/sadlfit.htm

Be sure to ask your saddle! Here's how....
http://awarenesshorsemanship.com/asksadl.htm

[ June 17, 2007, 12:51 AM: Message edited by: Mustang Blue ]
Mike Franklin
I thought that the pad ought to always be 'peaked'? If ya have the room to peak both pads the saddle ought to be settin' higher on the back and liftin' around the withers. Now idealy, a blanket should be all any horse needs between his back and the saddle.
betsey
Hi Everyone--

thanks for the good information (lona, the websites were great! Thanks!) Greg and Mike-i was hoping both of you would respond..THANK YOU!

i do always pull up the saddle pad...i was always taught this creates a channel for air to go through. So far, no swirls, no nothing, just dry on either side. no soresness, no grouchiness. I'll continue to keep an eye on it, and let you all know what transpires.

betsey
Mike Franklin
While peaking the pad might allow a little air in, I was taught that it really is to releave all preasure on the withers. The withers on a horse are like the boney place on your back where your neck, shoulders and back all come together. If you have preassure there it gets real uncomfortable real fast. The same goes for a horses withers.
Just to humor me, try riding your pony with just a thin blanket one time and check the back. Don't ride to long just enough to work up a sweat. I've been riding my Shire with just a thin blanket and he's been fine.
go2tex2
Before you ride with just a blanket, check the underside of your saddle for any nails or screws that might have worked loose or might be coming through the tree. Work your fingers through the wool all around the bars.
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